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Here comes Eric Metaxus.

Yousa, yousa, yousa, yousa.

As we always say on this program, don't we, Chris?

Yeah, we see it every three seconds.

If people don't know that, they're obviously not regular listeners. Yousy, yousy, yousa. Yousa, yousa. It's really the only thing you can say to some of what we do on this program. Ladies and gentlemen, we've got a lot going on here. First of all, an hour one today, and hour one is typically our first hour.

I'm having a conversation. Actually, it's in a few minutes. Wait, it is our one already. It's

our one right now. And in the next segment for the rest of our one, we're talking to our friend

Megan Basham. Now, ladies and gentlemen, I just want you to understand. I can say this when I'm

not talking to the guests because I don't want to embarrass them. Megan Basham is a hero,

and she's written a book called Shepherds for Sale. It is scandalous what she writes about.

She's a great journalist. And without her having written this book,

the information would not be out there. This is a big deal. It's about a scandal in the evangelical

church. It touches major, major figures. And it's not sexual peadilloes or sin. No, it's worse. It's corruption.

Um, it's, um, we're going to, we're going to be talking about that with her today and tomorrow,

because the book is so important. I wanted to talk to her for two hours. So in a few minutes,

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