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Oh God, What Now?

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Politics, Government, News, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 27 May 2021

⏱️ 64 minutes

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It’s our FOURTH BIRTHDAY edition! And what a sumptuous spread Classic Dom has laid on for us. The classic line-up of Dorian, Naomi, Ros, Alex and Ian reassemble in an actual physical studio (!) to discuss Cummings’ committee drive-by on Johnson and his vendetta against multi-sackable Matt Hancock, and why he supported a PM he knew was unfit for the job. Plus a special treat for listeners: yes, we’re talking about the Progressive Alliance! This edition out early as a special bonus for our loyal listeners. • “When Cummings reports that Johnson ‘loves chaos because it shows who’s in charge’, that has the ring of truth.” – Alex Andreou • “Cummings knows he’s the reason Johnson is in No.10… and his ego was big enough to fool him that he could stop Johnson’s worst excesses.” – Ros Taylor • “There are no great points of principle here. Cummings just hates Johnson’s girlfriend and he’s a spiteful, resentful t**t.” – Ian Dunt • “Hancock was working on what he could claim as a success at the next press conference… He was disrupting all the long-term work.” – Alex Andreou • “We don’t have democratic equality in this country… We are the only ones who use antiquated FPTP.” – Naomi Smith Presented by Dorian Lynskey with Naomi Smith, Ian Dunt, Ros Taylor and Alex Andreou. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the fourth anniversary edition of Ogod What Now, formerly known as Remain Hands.
0:11.1	For the first time since March 2020, at least some of us are back in an actual physical studio
0:15.9	so we can see it as beautiful faces. We will try not to get distracted.
0:20.5	And as a special birthday treat, thank you Dominic Cummings, we're putting the shower
0:24.1	early for everyone. Don't get used to it, it's not happening every week, unless you're a Patrick
0:28.4	Remaker. So who do we have this week? Joining us in person, looking like she's on the today program,
0:35.5	as she should be, is Ros Taylor, editor of the LSE's Covid-19 blog. Hi Ros.
0:40.1	Move over Amal Rajan, yeah, you just picked me to the post there. Hello, hello Dorian.
0:45.2	Ros, a massive report by former EHRC Commissioner Sware and Singh, it's concluded that Islamophobia
0:50.2	remains a problem in the Conservative Party as you might expect. And the party's complaint system
0:54.4	needs a major overhaul. In its conclusion, he doesn't go so far as accusing the party of institutional
0:59.2	racism. When the subjects of complaints include Zack Goldsmith and Good Old Bojo himself,
1:06.2	do you think the party will do anything significant about it? No, no, I don't. I think there's
1:14.0	a couple of things at work here. One is that the criticisms are often, you know, are of Johnson in
1:19.6	his previous life as a telegraph columnist and the things he said then. And as we all know,
1:24.3	the man is in a constant state of reinvention. And he is now, as far as many conservatives of
1:29.8	concern, completely moved on. And other things, bear in mind, that the conservatives don't generally
1:34.1	think that they have an Islamophobia problem. I mean, they look at their cabinet, they see
1:38.7	Rishi Sunak, they see Quazi Quarteng, they see Al-Aqshama, they see, you know, four non-white people
1:44.3	and pretty but tell, not four non-white people in the cabinet. And they think there's no real problem.
1:49.3	The party does not only not really believe in structural racism, but it doesn't like to see
1:54.2	politics through that lens. And that's why I think you'll see very little meaning for action.
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