what makes a successful mixed team, I guess. What is the ideal you're aiming for?

Yeah, I think that men and women and really a bunch of different personalities bring a lot

of different things to the table. There's certainly traditional male masculine qualities

and feminine qualities. I'm not going to stereotype, but there's

different energies, let's just say that. And I think that a lot of women, especially offshore

systems thinking and just like a different approach to stuff, it really brings a great energy. And men, too. I've had a lot of, you know,

that rich enthusiasm and, you know, like pushing boundaries and things like that. I love that the guys

kind of push me out of my comfort zone in that sense because I'm more of like a,

let's make sure we have all the sales still kind of push me out of my comfort zone in that sense because I'm more of like a, let's make

sure we have all the sales still kind of person. Hello, friends, welcome back to the podcast.

I'm your host, Andy Schell. We have the last ever ice bear trip about to get started.

Vilma and Rob, who are running the boat right now, just got into Maastrand on the

west coast of Sweden yesterday, and tomorrow, Mia and I will drive down to Maastrand from our house

on the other side of Sweden to meet up with Emma, and later this week, Nikki, who are flying in to do

our first ever all-women's trip and the last ever trip on

Ice Bear before the boat gets sold to her new owners and starts prep in earnest for the

upcoming OGR race. So it's going to be a bittersweet time in Mushron. The reason I'm going down

partly is to unload some of our personal stuff from the boat and bring it back to our

house in Sweden. And that boat has really helped us take this next

step with 59 North and got us to where we are today with the great people we have working

for us, the new boat Falcon that we're refitting and all the additional crew that we've

gotten to sail with.

...