Meg and Klay’s Breakup and Trump’s Second Shooting Attempt? Plus, Durand Bernarr on Stardom

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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Society & Culture

4.7 • 11.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2026

⏱️ 139 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel discuss distrust around the White House Correspondents’ Dinner shooting, before reacting to cheating allegations from Megan Thee Stallion about Klay Thompson. Then, Grammy Award-winning artist Durand Bernarr stops by to shed light on being “everyone’s favorite cousin,” before comedian Aida Rodriguez joins to preview Van’s upcoming standup set. (0:00) Intro (1:34) White House Correspondents’ Dinner shooting (19:46) Megan Thee Stallion and Klay Thompson’s breakup (56:30) Durand Bernarr joins the show (1:48:57) Aida Rodriguez on Van’s attempt at standup comedy (2:13:18) Stephen A. Smith’s HR violation Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Durand Bernarr and Aida Rodriguez Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors.
0:11.1	What is up?
0:12.7	How Learning is on.
0:13.7	Zy Van Lathen, Jr.
0:14.7	And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.
0:16.3	Rachel, what's up?
0:17.9	You know, just struggling with allergies a little bit. Super blue. Super. Is that what it's up? You know, just struggling with allergies a little bit.
0:21.1	Super blue.
0:22.9	Is that what it's called?
0:24.4	Yeah.
0:24.8	So apparently there's this phenomenon that's happened.
0:27.0	It's a super blown.
0:27.8	It's worse than it used to be.
0:29.1	I thought the Santa Ana wins only hit like November, December, January.
0:34.2	So whatever is happening now, I mean, I had to peel myself out of the bed this morning. I mean, I've just been, like, I can't stop sneezing. Just took some medicine, so, you know, some flow nays. Let's hope I'm good. Oh. Do you use what I'm, I'm, I'm, I like nasal sprays now. It's the best. I'm into it. What's the Synex one? The Vix Synex one. Oh, I haven't tried that one.
0:57.0	Yeah, Collica gave it to me. I like nasal sprays now. It's the best. I'm into it. What's the Synex one?
0:54.8	The Vix Synex one?
0:55.8	Oh, I haven't tried that one.
0:57.0	Yeah, Kalika gave it to me. I'll try that one next. I'm doing Flonais. I went to, never consistent with going to the doctor. I went to get checked on. Because remember the hoarseness that was an issue? So I went to an E&T and she gave me a great nasal spray, but it's prescription based.
1:13.0	I got to go back to get some more.
1:14.1	So yeah, yeah, yeah. How are you? I'm good. You know who's on the nasal spray? It's like crazy? I didn't know that was a thing, but okay. Chris Ryan. Who? Chris Ryan. Oh, this beef with Chris Ryan.
1:28.6	The beef with CR is still up.
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