Meeting the Swedish anti-vaxxers who believe ‘Mother Earth protects’

The Bunker

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News, Politics, Society & Culture, Government

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🗓️ 7 April 2023

⏱️ 27 minutes

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In Sweden most people have a great deal of trust in the state, but in recent years vaccine scepticism has gained ground. Ethnographer Mia-Marie Hammarlin spent time in the Swedish countryside sharing saunas and kitchen tables with women who refused the COVID vaccine. She explains how a belief in the power of nature and spirituality, bolstered by conspiracy theories found online, has convinced some Swedes to refuse jabs. “There are high levels of social trust in Sweden.” “Trust in nature and spirituality became a central belief for vaccine rejection.” “Vaccine sceptics furiously reject the notion they lack solidarity.” Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Ros Taylor. Producer: Jade Bailey. Audio production: Tomas Rojas. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Instagram | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	My name is Stan. I'm at. Nice to meet you. So you took up photography where? I've always loved
0:05.5	photography but I turn it into earning a living at 60. I enrolled on a day course.
0:11.8	Well college. I loved going to college. It's good you can retry. I'm enrolled on the day course. But college?
0:13.0	I loved going to college.
0:14.0	It's good you can retrain and do something.
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1:15.5	she studies the culture of particular societies. She spent time with a group of people
1:20.3	whom you may not feel much sympathy with, women who refuse to take vaccines and the COVID vaccine in particular.
1:27.0	Mia Marie Hamelin, welcome to the bunker.
1:29.0	Thank you so much for inviting me.
1:32.0	We didn't always pay a lot of attention to it before COVID, but vaccine
1:36.1	skepticism has been around for a long time, hasn't it? Oh yes it has. Usually researchers like to pinpoint that it has existed as long as the vaccines.
1:48.0	So you would find, for example, huge demonstrations in the shift between the 1800s and the 1900s in different
2:00.4	parts of England, for example, and also in Canada and this was because of the
2:06.2	smallpox vaccine that was changed you know from from being voluntary to being compulsory and this spurred these huge protests.
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