Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Job. And I go by the name, Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle.

We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other.

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you get your podcast. Hi, everyone. This is Thelma and Louise. Well, actually, that's not really our names, but for purposes of this, it's going to be that way until we get comfortable with this concept. And since it's been about nine years that Thelma and I have been trying to navigate the

dating world and haven't successfully got ourselves into a final destination chapter two

relationship, we are hesitant to give our real names.

But maybe one day we will be comfortable to give our real names.

Anyways, here we are. Besties since college. Did not think that we would end up where we are,

which is divorce, but we've made lemonade out of lemons. And we are boots on the ground,

normal people, not celebrities, in our 50s, children,

kids in college, like ready to kind of focus on our chapter 2.

We spend a lot of time actually dating.

We do the date prep.

We do the post-mortem. And we are happy to be an open book and answer any and all questions because we are all in this together, ladies, and we all have the single goal of finding our uniform.

So, Thelma, we thought it would be interesting if we were to talk to our friends out there and just

talk about the concept of a first date, right? Like, let's assume we've met somebody out or we've,

you know, gone on the dating app and we have secured a first date. And you and I have a lot of

kind of thoughts and opinions on outfits and how we should be treated and expectations and all that.

So let's just start with the concept of a first date.

Well, that's probably a good question for me because I feel like Louise has a lot more experience with first dates than I do.

So I'm still kind of getting the hang of it. But I, um, ironically, I have two

dates this week so I can really talk in their first date. So I, I feel like I can really speak to this.

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