Meet the 'iPod archaeologist' resurrecting forgotten playlists
Here & Now Anytime
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🗓️ 10 April 2026
⏱️ 27 minutes
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And, friction-maxxing is the idea of putting aside our phones and the convenience they bring in exchange for doing things the way we did before technology entered our lives. New York Magazine columnist Kathryn Jezer-Morton shares more about the new term she coined.
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| 0:00.0 | WBUR Podcasts, Boston. |
| 0:07.0 | Every iPod is basically a trip down memory lane for me. |
| 0:11.3 | Really does just kind of make you think both about the passage of time, |
| 0:14.5 | but also how much music changes and how we change along with it. |
| 0:18.6 | An iPod archaeologist |
| 0:20.9 | goes through the old iPods |
| 0:23.1 | she's discovered and finds some bangers. |
| 0:35.2 | It's Friday, April 10th, |
| 0:37.0 | and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WBOR. |
| 0:40.4 | I'm Chris Bentley. |
| 0:44.4 | A little later on the show, we'll hear a pitch for friction maxing, |
| 0:48.7 | or why you shouldn't let tech companies optimize the soul out of your everyday life. |
| 0:54.7 | The experience is being smoothed out to give us sort of the most pleasure, the most ease, |
| 0:59.8 | the feeling that it's tailor made for us, this kind of bespoke experience. |
| 1:04.0 | But then we lose the capacity to just make sense of, you know, difficult circumstances. |
| 1:08.8 | But first, did you ever have an iPod? You know, |
| 1:13.2 | Apple's old music players with the clicky track wheel that brought music from the days of CDs |
| 1:18.4 | and tapes into the world of digital media? You might have tooted it around until it got banged up |
| 1:24.5 | and leadened with dozens of gigs of waves and MP3s. |
| 1:29.0 | If you still have your iPod in a junk drawer, Claire Hughes wants to hear from you. |
| 1:34.5 | She's a social worker by day and an iPod archaeologist by night. |
| 1:39.8 | She refurbishes old iPods and then shares what she finds in public playlists. iPods were in production |
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