Meet the Governor Who Wants Humans to Become Cyborgs : 1406
The Human Upgrade: Biohacking for Longevity & Performance
Dave Asprey
4.6 • 7.4K Ratings
🗓️ 29 January 2026
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Summary
Aging is not something Zoltan Istvan plans to accept quietly. He wants to treat death like a technical bug, rewrite the rules of biology, and turn California into the global test bed for radical human upgrades. From cyborg implants to AI driven longevity science, this episode explores what happens when a candidate for governor openly argues that humans should evolve beyond their biological limits and take control of how long and how well they live.
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Host Dave Asprey sits down with Zoltan Istvan, a leading transhumanist, futurist, longevity advocate, and current candidate for Governor of California. Zoltan has spoken at Parliaments and Senates around the world, appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience, consulted for the US Armed Forces, and served as a correspondent for The New York Times. He has addressed the World Bank, the World Economic Forum, and the UK Parliament, and his work has influenced world leaders while shaping global conversations on AI, liberty, and human enhancement. Trained in philosophy and ethics at Columbia University and the University of Oxford, Zoltan brings rare depth to the intersection of technology, biology, and governance.
Together, they explore whether aging should be classified as a disease, why regulation is slowing breakthroughs in longevity science, and how California could become ground zero for anti-aging innovation. They debate biology versus machine integration, open source technology versus centralized control, and what morphological freedom really means when enhancement technologies move faster than policy. The discussion spans mitochondria, neuroplasticity, brain optimization, stem cells, organ printing, implants, and the ethical risks of surveillance, algorithmic persuasion, and unchecked AI.
This episode is essential listening for anyone serious about biohacking, hacking human performance, longevity, metabolism, functional medicine, anti-aging strategies, supplements, nootropics, ketosis, fasting, carnivore frameworks, sleep optimization, and living Smarter Not Harder in a world increasingly shaped by AI and technology, ideally with a cup of Danger Coffee in hand.
You’ll Learn:
• Why aging may be a solvable problem rather than an unavoidable fate
• How politics and regulation influence access to longevity and anti-aging therapies
• The real tradeoffs between biological upgrades and machine integration
• Why mitochondria, neuroplasticity, and brain optimization matter in human enhancement
• How AI and surveillance technology threaten cognitive and biological autonomy
• What morphological freedom means for the future of medicine and personal choice
• Why open source approaches to biohacking could protect liberty and innovation
• How Smarter Not Harder strategies support longevity in a rapidly evolving world
Dave Asprey is a four time New York Times bestselling author, founder of Bulletproof Coffee, and the father of biohacking. With over 1,000 interviews and 1 million monthly listeners, The Human Upgrade is the top podcast for people who want to take control of their biology, extend their longevity, and optimize every system in the body and mind. Each episode features cutting edge insights in health, performance, neuroscience, supplements, nutrition, hacking, emotional intelligence, and conscious living.
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Timestamps:
0:00 – Introduction
3:51 – What Is Transhumanism
8:15 – Biology vs Technology
12:53 – Government & Regulation
20:43 – Running for Governor
26:13 – Social Media & Kids
30:18 – Life Extension & Upgrades
38:59 – Defining Humanity
46:12 – Consciousness & Uploading
49:27 – Religion & Society
58:02 – AI Existential Risk
1:02:57 – Space & Future Enhancement
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| 0:00.0 | The number one goal of transhumanism is to overcome aging and biological death. |
| 0:04.5 | In the end, it seems to me like the human body is a kind of a time bomb. |
| 0:08.3 | My singular goal was, I love life, I don't want to die. |
| 0:10.8 | And this is the transhumanist mantra. |
| 0:12.8 | But we have promised to try to bring in billions of dollars specifically for the longevity industry. |
| 0:16.9 | I'd like to make California ground zero for where we tackle overcoming biological aging, declare that aging is a disease, so that a lot of federal funding will go into it. And this just takes somebody standing on their two feet and saying actually dying isn't good. And therefore, we're going to fight against it. On the state level, you can bypass a lot of the federal stuff and just say, okay, we're just doing it here. I would wipe this stuff out from day one. I would walk into office and just be like, gone, gone, gone. |
| 0:39.4 | Being alive is a state you can choose. |
| 0:41.2 | I have no problem with death whenever I choose it. |
| 0:43.3 | I just would like to be the guy who decides. |
| 0:45.1 | I think the actual transhuman future is something much grander than that. |
| 0:48.6 | We're going beyond human. |
| 0:51.3 | You're listening to The Human Upgrade with Dave Asprey. |
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| 1:29.2 | Welcome to the Transhumanism episode. |
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