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Meet JD Vance's surprising European support network

Power Play

POLITICO

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.21K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

From Hillbilly Elegy to vice-presidential candidate, JD Vance has come far since his hardscrabble roots in Ohio to shape the Trump doctrine for the millennial generation. He’s also gained notoriety for upping the temperature of America’s heated political discourse. But there’s also a philosophical side to Vance, shaped by a network of advisers and supporters on the other side of the Atlantic. Host Anne McElvoy talks to two friends who have watched Vance's rise closely: James Orr, a professor of religion at Cambridge University and a leading figure behind the National Conservative movement in the U.K., and Rod Dreyer, a former American Conservative columnist who has links to Hungarian PM Viktor Orbán. Anne is also joined by Jonathan Martin, POLITICO’s politics bureau chief and senior political columnist, to reflect on Vance's career prospects. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I grew up in Middletown, Ohio.

0:06.0

A small town where people spoke their minds, built with their hands

0:10.0

and loved their God, their family, their community, and their country with their whole hearts.

0:15.8

But it was also a place that had been cast aside and forgotten by America's ruling clash in Washington. From Hillbilly Elegit to Vice Presidential candidate, JD Vance has come a long way since

0:29.1

his hardscrabble roots in Ohio to become the second most prominent figure on the American right.

0:35.6

He's gained notoriety for vociferous remarks and upping the temperature of America's

0:40.9

already heated political discourse,

0:43.3

and he's been criticized for joining the Trump bandwagon

0:47.2

having roundly condemned him in the past.

0:50.1

But there's also another side of J.D. Vance, a network of advisors and supporters in Europe who've helped shape and support him.

0:58.0

He's taken a lot of criticism for his opposition to Washington's and NATO's policy with Ukraine.

1:04.0

Well, J.D. served in the Iraq war, and he knows what a foolish war is. most influential people on either side of the Atlantic. I'm Anne McElvoy and if you

1:25.0

haven't already please do take a moment to follow this podcast so you don't miss an

1:29.5

episode with a guest you might like to hear from in a crucial U.S. election season.

1:35.2

And this week I'm on a mission to find out what J.D. Vance's European connections tell

1:40.7

us about his politics now and maybe beyond November as the torch-bearer of a revived

1:46.5

MAGA bid for power or heralding a post-Trump era and one of Politico's leading Vance experts who's followed his rise

1:54.9

closely gives us his take on the J. D.V doctrine. He actually is somebody that could

2:00.3

carry on the project of Trump is. It was just a dramatic break from modern American conservatism

2:06.4

and a decisive shift toward much more of a European-style

2:10.8

nationalism.

2:11.8

But first, my producer Peter Snowden and I took the

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