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Totally. It's too short. I want to travel when I'm 80. I want to live till I'm 100. I want those extra years and I want them in happiness and health. And we were, I don't want to say like weirdos. No, we were. We were absolutely weirdos. Everyone thought we were weirdos and I hated it. And the food they served at the hospital was heartbreaking. So that made me want to do it even more.

And what are some tips you would give people to were weirdos and I hated it. And the food they served at the hospital was heartbreaking.

Yeah. So that made me want to do it even more. And what are some tips you just get to hang out. I think people might be a little confused. Dr. Vermin, you have a new look.

What do you mean a new look? People might think Dr. Furman is, you know, dad. Oh, I mean I'm not a 72-year-old man. Yeah, so a little different. Oh, okay, that's sort of new look. Well, yeah, Dr. Furman's senior is not here. Not here. So this is the new Dr. Furman.

So why don't you tell everyone why I'm calling you a doctor? Well, I just graduated from naturopathic medical school. Actually, when I say just, it's been a year, but I still feel, you know, it's like it's been pretty recent because school is such a long process. You're learning a lot. Yeah. And I just took my boards in February because my sister, who I'm staring at, wedding happened to fall on the August date of boards, so I had to take them a little bit longer, which prolonged my study time and prolonged my time of being a student. So now I'm finally working in the field. It feels very good, very fresh. I'm learning literally more than I did in five years of medical school in the last three months. Really? Yeah, there's nothing like

clinical experience. Yeah, I know what you've been having a lot of fun with. So you're a licensed

naturopathic doctor. Correct. And you've been working alongside our dad, the other Dr. Furman. My mentor. Doing kind of like a residency. Yeah, it's like a mini residency. In naturopathic medicine, you can do a residency. Many people do. Because as we're talking about, you get the most experience in the clinical field. So doing a residency with mentorship is the best way to learn. But you're not required to do it. So I decided to do an

unofficial residency with Papa Furman. Papa Furman, which is honestly pretty different because I know

there's a lot of people out there who look for doctors like dad. And he's just so unique.

Like, do you, have you met anyone that really practices medicine the way he does? No, I went to naturopathic

middle school. It was his idea because I wanted to learn more about nutrition, botanical medicine,

and more about what I wanted to practice, not necessarily everything they do in traditional

medical school, his idea. But he always says he's more naturopathic than the naturopaths,

because they also don't turn to 100% lifestyle medicine.

You don't think so. No, I think I was really surprised about that in school because our nutrition

education was really lacking. It's a very biased. Can I just ask a question there? Nutrition education

is lacking. I feel like you really disagreed with the

nutrition education. I remember you going through this time period. I think you're right with that,

but also there isn't a good enough nutrition education in general. There's a few quarters of one class,

and the teacher's constantly changing. They couldn't find the right professor for it. The professor

that I had was extremely biased and biased towards vegan specifically. He said there's no such thing as a healthy plant-based

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