For those of you who don't know Kevin Jenkins, you're in for a treat. Kevin is, I would say you're

a very close friend of mine, Kevin. And over the past year, you've become a really a dynamo and

juggernaut in this moment. Kevin co-produced a film medical racism with me. I know that he's got

a lot out of our relationship and I have gotten even more. Kevin, welcome so much to the podcast.

Well, thank you very much. Thank you very much, Bobby. How you doing, buddy?

I'm great. Tell us how you are. Well, you know, Bobby, this has been a very, very interesting year

and a half. Last year, sometime in Connecticut, Jamel Holley and I were talking about medical

freedom, religious freedoms and medical exemptions that we were having a problem in New Jersey.

He came to my house and started talking to me about what was going on. And he introduced me to you

a couple of months ago. I think it might have been a month ago in Connecticut. And you gave

this presentation about the impact. Well, as you know, Bobby, you know, we've known each other for a while

and you know, I've been working on building urban global health aligns and our single focus

at urban global health aligns is to change the culture of health in this country, you know,

through public policy, education and of course, advocacy. So we've been doing that work and I think

the work that we're really doing kind of spawn out of the meeting that we had last year. I think

when you were here fighting for medical exemptions for New Jersey's to keep medical exemptions,

I think because of all the work that you've been doing and I've been doing, it was a perfect

synergy for me to take an institution by the throat like the urban global health aligns,

which we created after that meeting to push it out into the world because we believe that in the

black community, the white community, that retail, advocacy, education and public policy was the way

to start to bring the debate together, like bring our communities together, white and black together,

to talk about how we can unify the fight against this tyranny that we see that's in full bloom now.

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