4.7 • 4.2K Ratings
🗓️ 19 June 2020
⏱️ 42 minutes
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On the conflict between outward facing antiracist messaging (ads, content, “solidarity” statements) and internal office behavior: who’s hired, who’s promoted, who’s given a raise, how Black people feel at your place of work, whose ideas are supported and welcomed—in media, and beyond.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Call Your Girlfriend! |
0:03.2 | A podcast for long distance besties everywhere. |
0:06.2 | I'm Amina Tussaud. |
0:08.0 | And I am Anne Friedman. |
0:09.7 | Hi Anne Friedman. |
0:11.3 | Hi Amina Tussaud. |
0:13.5 | Well, what are we talking about today? |
0:15.8 | Oh wow, we are talking today about the very obvious conflict that has emerged between |
0:22.8 | the many outward facing statements that companies are making, quote, in this moment, |
0:29.6 | ads, content, solidarity statements, pledges to do better, etc. |
0:37.1 | And the same company's internal behavior, i.e. who is hired, who is promoted, who is |
0:42.4 | given a raise, how people feel at your place of work, and essentially, like, do the black |
0:48.9 | lives of your employees matter? |
0:51.0 | Or is this just a statement that you feel like you have to make in order to continue |
0:55.6 | to do business? |
1:24.8 | Was it you that I was telling, or maybe it was in this very podcast last week that I really |
1:29.9 | wish that I had been compiling every single brand apology that I've seen because there |
1:35.5 | is something like, darkly funny to me about the fact that someone is telling a designer |
1:42.3 | at every single company right now, hey, can you make a statement about black lives matters |
1:48.3 | or alternatively, can you make a statement of my apology for racism? |
1:53.9 | Please make sure that it's in the brand identity, but also mostly black. |
1:59.6 | Like, can you make that happen? |
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