Media Bias or Moral Certainty?
The Dr. Phil Podcast
Dr. Phil McGraw
4.3 • 13.5K Ratings
🗓️ 30 January 2026
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
Media Research Center President David Bozell joins us to unpack a single question that matters in every high-emotion national story: when does coverage stop informing the public and start telling them what to conclude?
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| 0:00.0 | Folks, I'm glad you're with me today, and you're going to be glad that you are as well, |
| 0:03.8 | because my guest today is president of Media Research Center. |
| 0:07.7 | Talk about an interesting job. |
| 0:09.6 | He is doing things that I find absolutely fascinating in analyzing media, what they do, how they do it, |
| 0:18.0 | are their biases that exist. |
| 0:20.1 | It is so interesting. He looks at digital and |
| 0:24.4 | political impact. He is frequently quoted by major outlets that he actually analyzes. |
| 0:31.6 | Wall Street Journal, Washington Times, National Review, New York Times, and his work has appeared on Fox News, The Hill, |
| 0:39.8 | the Daily Caller, and he serves on the Conservative Action Project Coordinating Committee and |
| 0:45.7 | on the board of the Washington Policy Institute. This episode that we're getting ready to do is |
| 0:50.7 | not about determining guilt or innocence on any party about anything we talk about. |
| 0:56.9 | It's about how things get reported. |
| 0:59.8 | That is something that has really both fascinated and plagued me in stories that I report on for |
| 1:07.8 | the last 25, 30 years. |
| 1:10.4 | David Bozell, thank you so much for joining me today. |
| 1:14.1 | Thank you, sir. |
| 1:14.9 | Well, how did you get involved in this aspect of the media instead of some other? |
| 1:19.8 | You know, my father founded Media Research Center in 1987. |
| 1:23.6 | I started working for him in 2002. |
| 1:26.7 | Worked there for about eight years, 10 years in fundraising, |
| 1:29.3 | decided to start my own political operation called For America. |
| 1:32.9 | And then my father called me back in 2023. |
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