in this episode of the Ben Greenfield Fitness Podcast.

In our country, we have kind of, I'd say, jumped the shark

and the what is acceptable to consumers in our agriculture

to them, the consumers just don't know it.

Because there's natural how high mean it,

and then there's natural how, again, the USDA

allows people to find it.

So in our country, the term natural means almost nothing.

People have been raising pigs in Iowa for three generations.

They don't believe, inherently, what they're doing is wrong.

And so convincing them to change over,

if you're not convincing them to change philosophically,

all you can do is convince them

that they can make more money if they change their system.

We've been cheering me for thousands of years.

So before the advent of law's technology that we have,

they can be done safely at small ill for sure.

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