"Mean" vs. "Nice" Christians
Timothy Gordon Rules for Retrogrades Podcast
Timothy Gordon
4.5 • 636 Ratings
🗓️ 14 February 2026
⏱️ 135 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Yo, parish orphans and retrogrades, happy Friday. |
| 0:04.5 | I've got Joseph Anders of Red Top Report back with me. |
| 0:08.9 | And for the 50,000th time, it feels like what's back in Christian commentary news is mean versus nice. |
| 0:19.2 | What's the way to do it? |
| 0:20.3 | And if never, never,, by any of these detaunts between mean Christians and nice Christians |
| 0:28.6 | where they debate what's the best way to do it, it's never mean Christians going, |
| 0:34.9 | nice Christians are too nice in condemning them. It's always a counterpoint |
| 0:40.2 | to nice Christians ironically, paradoxically, attacking who they take to be mean Christians |
| 0:46.3 | for being mean. And then nice Christians are like, well, you guys are dorks and are convincing |
| 0:50.7 | no one. And this happened recently in a show that Trent Horn released two or three days ago, |
| 0:58.2 | where he designated the usual suspects, |
| 1:01.7 | what seemed to be his favorite four or five targets, Nick Fuentes, |
| 1:07.0 | Andrew Wilson, who suffered the ignominy of being the titular, me and Christian, myself, Joe, more recently, Joe with me doing patriarchy stuff, and fellow Eastern Orthodox to Andrew Wilson, Jay Dyer. |
| 1:25.8 | Also, he mentioned Sam Shammoon. |
| 1:28.3 | But so today we're going to be responding to the like bat anage, which goes back and forth. |
| 1:36.7 | And I will constantly say, hey, look, I, Trent, I want you to succeed because you're |
| 1:42.3 | doing your thing, staying in your lane is Catholic Answers, Protestant apologetics. Best of luck. I want you to be happy. Best luck to your wife. I'll try to help you guys out in whatever ways I can. Then we'll bury the hatchet. And then this stuff comes up again, and it's not, I'm not pretending it's the end of the world. I'm not going to call Trent names here because I don't want to do that against fellow Catholics. |
| 2:04.8 | But it's really freaking frustrating. |
| 2:07.1 | And I want to address what he got wrong about Joe and I and issue something of a definitive word because he harkened back to Joe Heschmeyer saying false gospel. |
| 2:34.9 | How many times do we have to talk about this thing? I don't know, but I had some new ideas. There is, there is. And I'm just want to. I know, I'm told, I want to. I want to because it's like these guys just cannot help themselves. I'm not, I don't even understand what the problem is. But I'm just saying, like, we've had this conversation many times. |
| 2:38.8 | We've stated our position many times and they continue misrepresenting it. So now it's like, |
| 2:43.2 | okay, I guess we have to get on camera for a third time now and address this. As part of a wider episode on mean versus nice apologetics. |
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