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The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

MDMA: What Went Wrong Part 1

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast

Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Medicine, Alternative Health

4.8440 Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2024

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Did boundary violations sink MDMA assisted psychotherapy? We explore the reasons behind the FDA panel’s rejection of this psychedelic therapy.CME: Take the CME Post-Test for this Episode (https://www.thecarlatreport.com/blogs/2-the-carlat-psychiatry-podcast/post/4739-mdma-what-went-wrong-part-1)Published On: 06/10/2024Duration: 20 minutes, 01 secondChris Aiken, MD and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.

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0:00.0

Last week, an FDA panel rejected MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for PTSD.

0:06.6

The reasons why offer us a cautionary tale.

0:14.5

Welcome to the Carlatte Psychiatry Podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003.

0:20.3

I'm Chris Aiken, the editor-in-chief of the Carlatte Psychiatry Report, and our co-host

0:25.0

Kelly Newsome is on vacation today.

0:30.8

Ten years ago, CBS aired an MDMA-assisted therapy session of a woman with PTSD on its medical talk show, The Doctors.

0:41.6

We're going to play that for you right now because based on last week's vote at the FDA,

0:47.1

this may be the only time you're going to get to hear of this therapy, at least in the U.S.

0:53.3

What you're about to see is something very private, is very personal.

0:57.4

Rachel has agreed to share this.

0:59.3

In this video, she's under the effects of MDMA.

1:02.5

This is when she said she had a breakthrough in her ability to trust and connect with people again.

1:07.1

Let's take a look.

1:09.0

I couldn't keep up or...

1:11.6

Oh, this is so great.

1:14.6

Mm-hmm.

1:15.6

So you see how we can both have fears?

1:17.6

Annie, our fears are dancing between us.

1:23.6

Yeah.

1:24.6

They're making art.

1:26.6

Mm-hmm. They're out art. Mm-hmm.

1:28.3

They're out in the open running around, right?

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