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Conflicted: A History Podcast

McNamara's Boys: Lost Innocence in Vietnam

Conflicted: A History Podcast

Zach Cornwell

Education, History, Society & Culture

4.8610 Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2020

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

How the US government deliberately sent thousands of mentally-disabled men into combat during the Vietnam War. A bonus episode and companion to Episode 12: "The Good Guys". SOURCES: Gregory, Hamilton. McNamara's Folly: The Use of Low-IQ Troops in the Vietnam War. 2015.  Hsiao, Lisa. “Project 100,000: The Great Society’s Answer to Military Manpower Needs in Vietnam”. 1989. Hastings, Sir Max. Vietnam: An Epic Tragedy (1945-1975). 2018.  Turse, Nick. Kill Anything That Moves. 2013. Charles Rivers Editors. The My Lai Massacre. 2015.  Jones, Howard. My Lai. 2015.  Fitzgerald, Frances. Fire In The Lake. 1972. O’Brien, Tim. The Things They Carried. 1990. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to conflicted, the history podcast where we talk about the struggles that shaped us, the tough questions that they pose, and why we should care about any of it.

0:10.1

Conflicted is a member of the Evergreen Podcast Network, and as always, I'm your host, Zach Cornwell.

0:15.8

Today's show is a bonus episode, part of an ongoing series I've been calling epilogues.

0:21.9

And as I've said before, the main purpose of these bonus shows is to expand upon the themes of a previous

0:26.6

full-length episode or just to explore issues or anecdotes that I had to leave on

0:31.0

the cutting room floor in today's epilogue is a companion to episode 12 the good guys

0:36.3

which cataloged the shocking, systemic pattern

0:39.6

of atrocity and criminal negligence by the U.S. Army during the Vietnam War.

0:44.5

In that episode, our center of gravity, narratively, was the Mili Massacre, in which American

0:50.4

soldiers murdered, upwards of 500 innocent men, women, and children over the course of

0:56.3

four hours on March 16, 1968.

1:00.1

We also explored the flawed government policies and institutional arrogance that made a war crime

1:06.0

like Milai, and many others like it, basically inevitable.

1:10.0

Well, today, we're going to turn our focus

1:11.7

towards something very closely related,

1:13.8

but altogether unique,

1:15.6

because the civilians of South Vietnam

1:17.2

were not the only innocent victims

1:19.3

of the U.S. government's feckless war in Vietnam.

1:22.6

Today, we're going to be talking about the victims

1:24.9

that were much closer to home.

1:28.3

During the late 1960s, the Johnson administration, in a well-intentioned but foolishly conceived

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