McLellan's Forward Issue, Larkin's Hot Start, and Kane and Raymond Injuries - Oct. 23rd, 2025
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🗓️ 23 October 2025
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All good things come to an end, as the Detroit Red Wings cut their win streak at 5 after losing to the Buffalo Sabres. Tune in as we open by discussing the loss in which J.T. Compher & Emmitt Finnie (from Dylan Larkin) scored while the rest of the Detroit Red Wings didn't do much else, as the absence of Patrick Kane and Lucas Raymond being injured disrupted the forward group, John Gibson didn't stand out, the penalties and errors from the best players in Edvinsson and Seider down to the bottom of the lineup in Rasmussen and Berggren all led to a loss to Colten Ellis, a rookie goalie making his NHL debut (4:15).
We then discuss Todd McLellan's difficult spot with the forwards, as two key injuries means a lack of solid lines to utilize, how the depth players aren't seizing their opportunities, DeBrincat and Brandsegg-Nygard aren't offering scoring firepower, and what Steve Yzerman can do to help fix the issue (14:25).
After that, Dylan Larkin's impressive start to the season (alongside Emmitt Finnie) & if it's a sign of new heights (30:15), Carter Mazur's hot start and Nate Danielson's path back (33:30), more on the Gustafsson, Holl, Hamonic trade rumors and what Steve Yzerman may do there (36:10), Max Plante's dominance in the NCAA (37:55), whether Michael Brandsegg-Nygard could benefit from joining Carter Mazur, Amadeus Lombardi, and soon Nate Danielson with the Grand Rapids Griffins in the AHL, or if he's better to stick it out in Hockeytown (39:35), and what to make of Alex DeBrincat's goalless streak to start the season (44:30).
Finally, a quick look around the NHL (47:45) before we take your questions and comments in our Overtime segment (52:25) - enjoy!
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Wingwheel podcast, the number one source for news, analysis and discussion, |
| 0:14.5 | on the Detroit Red Wings, the NHL, and all things hockey. |
| 0:19.2 | Here are your hosts, Brian Hanna, Brad Criscoe, and Evan Lopsinger. |
| 0:27.4 | Trap game, right? |
| 0:32.9 | Like start to finish, we all knew that was a trap game. |
| 0:35.1 | Seen it coming a mile away. |
| 0:36.9 | Wednesday night in Buffalo. |
| 0:39.3 | Yes. |
| 0:40.0 | Against rookie goaltender making his NHL debut |
| 0:43.3 | at age 25. |
| 0:45.3 | And no offense to him, like, you know, |
| 0:47.1 | happy story, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. |
| 0:48.5 | But like, this is just Red Wings |
| 0:51.8 | trap game. |
| 0:53.3 | Give up the win to this guy who they should have shelled |
| 0:57.7 | 100% trap game |
| 1:00.2 | I was pleasantly surprised that I thought the weird |
| 1:04.6 | first game curse was going to absolutely lead to a shutout |
| 1:07.8 | fun little twist that it was an assist on the bingo card. |
| 1:13.7 | You knew something bad like that was going to happen to the Red Wings. |
| 1:16.4 | We've been down this path enough, but that's a pleasant twist on an unfortunate experience for us. |
| 1:23.1 | I'll tell you, it's not fun to watch games like yesterday but it is there's a little bit of |
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