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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

McCarthy’s Law

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 August 2023

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

If you were hopelessly confused by Jonah’s recent conversation with Sarah Isgur on the Trump indictment, prepare to be even more bewildered by today’s follow-up, which features the overdue Remnant return of Andy McCarthy, National Review’s chief legal poobah. It’s an episode of relentless legal nerdery as they dig deep into the weeds on Trump’s latest legal woes, and whether the claims against him hold up to scrutiny. There’s also some less mind-melting discussion mixed in on the legacy of the Civil Rights Act, the madness of Sidney Powell, and whether the federal government was right to punish Al Capone for tax evasion (yes, really). Show Notes: - Andy’s page at National Review - Jonah and Sarah on the indictment - The McCarthy Report on the indictment - Andy: “Anti-Indictment and Pro-Editorial” - Andy: “The Civil-Rights Theory of Indicting Trump for Election Interference” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Well, ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention?

0:22.0

Greetings, good listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg. You're listening to the Remnant Podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

0:34.0

I can't say I'm exactly happy to be home, but I am home. It's been kind of a whirlwind adventure last three weeks.

0:42.0

And we have a somewhat of a special episode today. Andy McCarthy, who's the Chief Legal Puba at National Review and a former special prosecutor who put the blind sheet behind bars, is also a legal commentator for Fox News.

0:56.0

And I will just say upfront, because I think it's important for listeners to understand this. I consider him a dear friend, and while I often had disagreements at the margins one way or another with Andy, I've always respected Andy for, I think he always takes things.

1:10.0

He always approaches things in good faith. And one of the reasons why he wanted to come on is he's been getting a lot of brick racks from people who think he's taking a position not in good faith, which I'm just going to reject upfront.

1:24.0

I've just known Andy too long and seen him take positions that have earned him grief from all parties to think that he doesn't come to this stuff naturally.

1:33.0

Doesn't mean he's not necessarily wrong, but well, that remains to be seen. And since I'm not a lawyer, he will probably be able to steamroll over me anyway.

1:41.0

But he has to come on so he can sort of address some of the controversies. I was glad to have him on for any reason.

1:47.0

And so here we go. Andy McCarthy, welcome to the room. Welcome back to the room.

1:51.0

Jonah, it's great to be here. And if I steamroll over you, I'll be the first. So that'll be that'll be great.

1:57.0

I'm not sure that's true, but we'd have to we'd have to hit the archives. And we don't want to talk about episode 11.

2:02.0

Now normally I'm an avid listener of the McCarthy report, the podcast you do with Rich Lowry, where you gradually give rich equal credit for the content of that.

2:11.0

When in fact, he just basically asks you questions, but you always begin with a lot of inside baseball about baseball for the most part and occasionally football.

2:19.0

We're not going to do that here today. But I want to know you had this tragedy with your St. Bernard.

2:24.0

And I just want to know if you had I've gotten another dog or you could still dogless where we're still dogless.

2:31.0

But I think mainly because we've had stuff going on like my younger son going away to school.

2:38.0

And he's playing ball where he's at school. So we're we're traveling back and forth.

2:44.0

So I think between the sort of the grief of this, which is something I never in my life anticipated going through, but was was really a lot more than I bargained for.

2:56.0

I think by the time we felt like we had that far enough in the in the rearview mirror to think about it again, it was a situation where it wouldn't have been fair to the dog.

3:07.0

But we're still we're still likely to do it. We've been spending a lot of time in Chicago where it looks to me like everybody has two dogs.

3:17.0

And they're hearty people, man. I mean, they're out there. It's, you know, it's 10 below zero and they're out, you know, walk in the walk and doing all the things you have to do.

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