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Hello and welcome back to the show on Outwood channel good evening it is crime theory. I know this is not John

Wedger John Redger is currently MIA and which usually means he's up to something and if he's up to something that usually means some bad people are about to have a real shitty midweek to themselves.

So we will see what is happening, but this is Prime Theory, this is McCann Theories.

We are here with the wonderful Luke from Break the Ice and we're going to delve into some of his

concepts and the theories behind the Madeline

case but before we do that make sure for the love of God that you share you like and

you do all the good stuff okay because it really helps us out.

How are you all? You wonderful people in site chat. I can see we've got Sheila,

we go Leslie, we've got Geraldine, what is happening, what is happening, that's Sean, that's me, I'm putting my own posts up.

But I hope everyone is having a good, good day.

Look, has got his own channels, break the ice, you cover all kinds of things, you've got some

quite interesting and unique insights into some big cases, and the Moore's murders is certainly one that I think everyone in the

UK is always interested in Moors murder stuff regardless of whether they've heard the story or whether or not it's new to them or I can't imagine to anyone at this point.

But you never know and you know you you actually were friends with some of the relatives of the victims right?

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