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Intrigue

Mayday - Ep 4. Hoax Producers

Intrigue

BBC

True Crime, Society & Culture, Personal Journals

4.64.6K Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2020

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

“There’s something addictive about uncovering the world as it really is.” The allegations begin.

When James Le Mesurier fell to his death in Turkey in 2019 he left behind a tangle of truths and lies. Mayday tells the extraordinary real story of the man who organised the White Helmets – rescuers who film themselves pulling survivors from bombed out buildings in rebel-held areas of Syria – and investigates claims that, far from being heroes, they are part of a very elaborate hoax. James Le Mesurier – his detractors say – was a British secret agent, pulling the strings. So when his body was found by worshippers on their way to morning prayers, there were a lot questions.

Produced, written and presented by: Chloe Hadjimatheou Editor: Emma Rippon Researcher: Tom Wright Mixed by: Neil Churchill Arabic translation and additional research: Vanessa Bowles, Abdul Kader Habak Turkish researcher: Nevin Sungur Narrative Consultant: John Yorke Original music: Nick Mundy and Bu Kolthoum Production Coordinator - Gemma Ashman

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“MARK DEVLIN WITH NICK KOLLERSTROM ON THE PAUL McCARTNEY REPLACEMENT, LONDON, FEBRUARY 2019” - Mark Devlin YouTube channel, 5 April 2019, video of a lecture hosted by “Keep Talking,” filmed and edited by Alan Bariffi

“KEEP TALKING - Vanessa Beeley on The White Helmets & the billionaires funding Regime Change” - Ian Fantom YouTube channel, 17 Jul 2019

“Is Le Mesurier an Epstein?” - Fault Lines, Sputnik International, 12 November 2019

“Child Rescued From Airstrike Rubble in Aleppo” - Wall Street Journal, footage originally from Aleppo Media Center, 18 Aug 2016

Kate Baldwin CNN News Report about Omran - CNN, 18 August 2016

“تلبيسة 10-10-2016 طفلة مصابة تنادي والدها” (“An injured child calls out to her father”) “talbisa h” YouTube channel

“Bashar al-Assad speaks to Swiss television” from “swissinfo.ch” – film of an interview with Swiss public television, SRF, In an interview with Swiss public television, SRF, aired 20 Oct 2016

“Is Le Mesurier an Epstein?” - Fault Lines, Sputnik International, 12 November 2019

“Operation Pillar of Defense Day 7; Gaza press building under an Israeli air strike” – Reuters – published on Haaretz הארץ YouTube channel, 20 Nov 2012

The Wall Will Fall – Vanessa Beeley’s blog

“Palestine : Conference Laurent Louis Dieudonne Marion Sigaut Jacob Cohen Samir Belgium United” - Belgium United YouTube Channel - audio and video editing: Samir Prod Y2J for: Belgium United and MetaTv Belgium

“US Peace Council on Syria (Arab/Eng) مجلس السلام الأمريكي على سوريا Ft Vanessa Beeley on Syrian TV” - ICIT Digital Library

“White Helmets' black record: 'Real Syrian civil defence groups describe them as terrorists'” – RT

“White Helmets' bizarre ‘mannequin challenge’ in Syrian warzone” – RT

“'WTF White Helmets': Bizarre ‘mannequin challenge’ in Syrian warzone (VIDEO)” - RT

“UK in Syria- Creating A Dystopian Shadow State Ft Vanessa Beeley on British Constitution Group” - ICIT Digital Library

“Bashar al-Assad speaks to Swiss television” from “swissinfo.ch” – film of an interview with Swiss public television, SRF, In an interview with Swiss public television, SRF, aired 20 Oct 2016

BBC Monitoring copy of HTS video

Transcript

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0:00.0

Just before this BBC podcast gets underway, here's something you may not know.

0:04.6

My name's Linda Davies and I Commission Podcasts for BBC Sounds.

0:08.4

As you'd expect, at the BBC we make podcasts of the very highest quality featuring the most knowledgeable

0:14.3

experts and genuinely engaging voices. What you may not know is that the BBC

0:20.4

makes podcasts about all kinds of things like pop stars,

0:24.6

poltergeist, cricket, and conspiracy theories and that's just a few examples.

0:29.7

If you'd like to discover something a little bit unexpected, find your next podcast over at BBC Sounds.

0:36.0

BBC Sounds.

0:38.0

BBC Sounds, Music Radio Podcasts.

0:41.0

So there's a lot of disagreement among researchers as to whether we're

0:45.8

looking at one straight replacement or whether we're looking at multiple

0:50.2

replacements, but the one consistent factor in all of it that we can all agree on is there has

0:56.5

been more than one Paul McCartney. That's pretty much the only definitive statement you can make in all of this.

1:03.6

Yep, you heard that right.

1:05.4

This is a lecture on the contentious theory of how many Paul McCartney's there have been.

1:10.3

One guy, James...

1:11.5

It's hosted by Keep Talking, a forum for public lectures by conspiracy theorists.

1:17.0

The co-founder Nick Collistram took up the subject.

1:20.0

In a way, the story of why they could never play together after August 66 was that the new guy was taller.

1:29.0

It was taller, it was bigger, bigger shoes, longer head,

1:34.0

party on the other side and he just couldn't possibly

1:38.0

sitting into the line together.

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