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Politics Unpacked

May's deal is defeated. Then what?

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

News & Politics, Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2018

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Matt Chorley is joined by Henry Zeffman, Times political correspondent, who explains what could happen if and when Theresa May's Brexit deal is voted down by MPs.


Rachel Sylvester, Times columnist, argues Theresa May’s fixation on immigration is her fatal flaw.


And Kenny Farquharson on interviewing John McDonnell on Labour working with the SNP, splits with Jeremy Corbyn, and learning to play the trombone.



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0:00.0

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0:08.0

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0:16.5

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0:30.3

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0:35.7

podcast from so you don't miss future episodes.

0:39.2

Guess what?

0:40.2

This week we're going to talk about Brexit, but we'll try and talk about some other things as well.

0:43.6

Delight to be enjoyed in the studio by Rachel or the Times columnist talking about

0:47.3

Theresa May's obsession with immigration. Joining us live from our office in

0:51.4

Scotland, Times Scotland columnist Kenny Farkston, on his trying to get

0:55.8

some straight answers out of John McDonnell. But first, here to explain to us what happens,

1:00.8

if, although probably when Theresa May loses her big vote next week, this is Times

1:06.6

political correspondent and author of the Brexit briefing email Henry Zeffman.

1:11.3

Let's start here the meaningful vote on Theresa May's Brexit deal will not pass.

1:16.4

So what then? I don't know. There are roughly five endings.

1:20.3

May's deal, another deal, no deal, a referendum or an election.

1:25.0

But the paths to get to them are myriad.

1:28.0

MPs might be Blasey about the rubbishness of the Prime Minister's deal,

1:32.0

but they should not be Blase about the imminent constitutional crisis.

1:35.0

Now to go slightly behind the curtain of how journalism works, Henry, I've seen you sitting in the office with a large A3.

1:41.0

It started out with an A4 envelope, and it quickly became an A3 envelope.

1:44.1

You trying to sketch out what happens after we assume the meaningful vote gets voted down by MPs.

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