You're in the Paracast. You're in the Paracast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.

And now, here's Gene Steinberg.

With Gene and Chris on the Paracast, we're joined by Leslie Kane investigative journalist.

She is a best-selling author of a UFO book, which is an extreme rarity.

We don't get too many of those.

She's researched UFOs as an investigative journalist for over a decade and has lots of important insights.

And we're going to cover what she has to say,

particularly also about a forthcoming UFO conference

and about a certain conference we've talked a lot about

called the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure.

But first, Leslie, first welcome back to the show.

Thank you very much.

I'm so happy to be back with you guys.

Now, we got this item that you're hearing about probably for the first time. You don't have to comment on it. Maybe Chris and I will talk about it briefly before we get into it. There's an article from Tony Braggia who recently had written a piece being skeptical of the reality of the Sukaro, New Mexico UFO landing.

And now he has a piece where he concludes that Aztec is really Roswell.

Chris, did you read this piece?

I did, Jane.

And I'll tell you, you have to hand it to Tony Baguaglia.

He's quite creative in the way he analyzes some of these historical cases.

I absolutely disagree with his assertions on Socorro that it was a hoax by college students.

There's just no evidence to back it up, and the evidence he proposes doesn't fly.

Understand that Tony is a member of kevin randall's dream

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