So, you've entered the Paracast with your host, Gene Steinberg and David Bienn.

So, David, I guess we should tell our listeners about our visit to the rapid hole.

I think it might be the bird nest.

Well, of course, amongst the things we're going to talk about with Robert Hastings and Don Eckers

is Robert's article

about Operation Bird Droppings. Now, since two, I don't know if you call them notables or

characters in the UFO field are mentioned, we strive to have them come on the show. We figured,

you know, let's have all sides of the question be heard. Now, so I wrote to Robert Collins, and I said, would you like to come on?

He says yes, but then a certain show that now considers us rivals,

asked him if he'd wait a week, you know, first go on their show, then come on our show.

And we're gracious about it we said okay

her that's fine all right then we wanted to contact the other person of the amazing duo or the

obstreperous duo or the two losers depending on which point of view you want to take i'm

so you're down with it i call richard doty and i said i understand two losers, depending on which point of view you want to take. I'm down.

So you're down with it.

I call Richard Doty.

And I said, I understand you're going to be.

I'll mention it on coast to coast.

And he says, no, I'm not.

Oh, well, that's what Robert Collins says.

Well, no, I'm not going to be on that show.

I said, well, no, I'm not going to be on that show. I said, well, okay, fine. I'm not going to be on any show with Robert Collins. And I said, that's fine. Would you like to come on a show all by

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