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Background Briefing with Ian Masters

May 11, 2026 - Mark Fitzpatrick | Jacob Heilbrunn | Andrew Cockburn

Background Briefing with Ian Masters

Ian Masters

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4.7622 Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Trump Rejects Iran's Offer While Netanyahu Warns of "Reengaging Them Militarily" | In Turning Against Trump's War, a Prominent Neocon Wants a Bigger War | Andrew Cockburn on Corruption and Lies in the Age of Trump backgroundbriefing.org/donate x.com/ianmastersmedia bsky.app/profile/ianmastersmedia.bsky.social facebook.com/ianmastersmedia

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Background Briefing, available 24-7 at Background Briefing.org.

0:17.4

I'm Ian Masters, and today we'll examine a number of stories and issues in the news.

0:21.6

We'll begin with Trump rejecting Iran's peace offer as totally unacceptable in caps,

0:27.6

with Prime Minister Netanyahu telling 60 minutes that if negotiations fail, quote,

0:32.6

we will re-engage them militarily, adding Iran's governments, quote, days are numbered, but it could take a lot of

0:40.2

days. Joining us is Mark Fitzpatrick, a fellow for strategy, technology, technology, and arms control,

0:46.4

and former executive director of the Washington-based America's Office of the International

0:50.9

Institute for Strategic Studies, as well as former head of the Institute's work on nonproliferation.

0:57.0

He served as a US Foreign Service Officer, including as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Nonproliferation at the State Department,

1:05.0

and his books include spies, bombs and beyond, and the Iranian nuclear crisis, avoiding worst-case outcomes.

1:12.6

Then with Uber-Neokan, Robert Kagan, writing in the Atlantic that,

1:16.6

quote, Washington can't reverse or control the consequences of losing this war,

1:22.6

but then recommending that the US, quote, engage in a full-scale ground grounded naval war to remove the current Iranian regime, then occupy Iran.

1:32.4

We will speak with Jacob Harbrun, the editor at the national interest, and a non-resident senior fellow at the Atlanta Council's Eurasia Center, and a columnist for The Spectator.

1:42.3

His books include They Knew They Were Right, The Rise of the Neocons, and America Last,

1:48.6

the right century-long romance with foreign dictators.

1:52.1

He's also editor-at-large of the Jerusalem Strategic Tribune,

1:55.8

and he has an article at The Spectator, Trump, is clinging to a mirage in the Middle East.

2:01.3

Then finally, we'll speak with Andrew Coburn, the Washington editor of Harper's magazine,

2:05.6

and the author of many books on national security, including spoils of war,

2:10.3

Kill Chain and Rumsfelds, his rise, fall, and catastrophic legacy.

2:16.3

He has written four, among others, the Los Angeles Times,

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