May 11, 2025 - Lucan Way | James Zirin | Leah Litman
Background Briefing with Ian Masters
Ian Masters
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🗓️ 11 May 2025
⏱️ 60 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to background briefing, available 24-7 at background briefing. |
| 0:17.1 | I'm Ian Masters, and today we'll look into a number of stories and issues in the news. |
| 0:21.5 | We'll begin with the thuggery of a masked American Gestapo unleashed on the mayor of Newark |
| 0:26.9 | and three members of Congress at an ICE detention facility in New Jersey on Friday, |
| 0:33.2 | which apparently happened on the orders of Trump's former lawyer and delusional ideologue, |
| 0:38.3 | Alina Haber, who Trump has made the acting U.S. attorney in New Jersey. |
| 0:43.9 | We will discuss the extent to which we already have an authoritarian government, |
| 0:48.6 | while recognizing that the slide into authoritarianism is reversible, |
| 0:53.6 | but that no one has ever defeated |
| 0:56.0 | autocracy from the sidelines. Joining us is Lucan Way, a distinguished professor of democracy |
| 1:02.5 | in the Department of Political Science at the University of Toronto, and a fellow of the Royal Society |
| 1:07.2 | of Canada. His books include competitive authoritarianism, hybrid regimes after the Cold |
| 1:12.9 | War, and Revolution and Dictatorship, the Violent Origins of Durable Authoritarianism, co-authored |
| 1:20.1 | with Stephen Leviski, and we will discuss his article at the New York Times, How Will |
| 1:25.4 | We Know When We Have Lost Our Democracy? Then with the co-president Stephen Miller, at the New York Times, how will we know when we have lost our democracy? |
| 1:29.1 | Then with the co-president Stephen Miller talking about suspending habeas corpus, |
| 1:34.6 | taking us back before 2015 and the Magna Carta, |
| 1:38.4 | we'll examine the warnings from Supreme Court justices, Sotomayor, and Katangi Brown-Jackson, |
| 1:46.4 | and speak with James Zarin, |
| 1:51.4 | a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York and the host of the critically acclaimed television talk show conversations with Jim Zarin, which airs on PBS. |
| 1:56.8 | He's the author of Supremely Partisan, How Raw Politics Tips the Scales in the United States |
| 2:01.4 | Supreme Court, and Plative in Chief, a portrait of Donald Trump in 3,500 lawsuits. |
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