The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode. Hey everyone welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work for the glory of God

and the good of others. Each week I'm hosting a conversation with a Christian who's

pursuing world-class mastery of their craft. We're talking about their path to mastery,

we're talking about their daily habits, and how their faith influences their work.

Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, I cannot be more excited about sharing this particular

episode with you. Today I'm talking with Maxwell King,

the author of the first full-length biography on Fred Rogers, better known of course as Mr. Rogers, who over the last two years,

thanks to Max's book has become one of the greatest heroes of my life,

and you're going to learn why in this book.

Listen, Max King is wildly impressive in his own right.

He is the president and CEO of the Pittsburgh Foundation with assets of more than a billion

dollars.

He's the former director of the Fred Rogers Center

and for the first part of his career.

He was a journalist, including an eight-year stint

as the editor of the Philadelphia Inquirer.

So I ask Max to come and basically sit in as Fred Rogers.

So this is as if we are interviewing Fred

on the call to mastery, which we obviously cannot do,

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