Max Tegmark: Will AI Surpass Human Intelligence?

Into the Impossible With Brian Keating

Brian Keating

Science, Physics, Natural Sciences

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🗓️ 9 December 2024

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Please join my mailing list here 👉 https://briankeating.com/list to win a meteorite 💥 Will AI ever surpass human intelligence, discover new laws of physics, and solve the greatest mysteries of our universe? This week on Into the Impossible, I explore the potential and dangers of artificial intelligence with none other than Max Tegmark! Max Tegmark is a renowned physicist and machine learning expert who dedicated his career to uncovering the mathematical fabric of reality, proposing that our universe itself might be a vast mathematical structure and that we could be living in a multiverse of endless possibilities. His work goes beyond physics to tackle the transformative power and ethical challenges of artificial intelligence, an area where he believes humanity must tread carefully. In the second part of our fascinating interview, we discuss the development of AI, the impact it will have on science, and our role in all of this. Tune in to discover if AI will ever surpass human intelligence! Check out the first part of our interview, where we discuss his mathematical universe hypothesis, the search for extraterrestrial life, and AI’s role in science: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFO5lzA_0Og Key Takeaways: 00:00 Intro 00:28 Is AI limited by embodiment? 10:52 The challenges in AI research 14:53 The role of regulation in AI development 29:53 How AI is going to impact education and science 39:20 Do we need quantum computation for human intelligence? 44:50 Fantastic final four 50:45 Outro Additional resources: 📚 Life 3.0 by Max Tegmark: https://a.co/d/d08r0FJ ➡️ Follow me on your fav platforms: ✖️ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrBrianKeating 🔔 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/DrBrianKeating?sub_confirmation=1 📝 Join my mailing list: https://briankeating.com/list ✍️ Check out my blog: https://briankeating.com/cosmic-musings/ 🎙️ Follow my podcast: https://briankeating.com/podcast Into the Impossible with Brian Keating is a podcast dedicated to all those who want to explore the universe within and beyond the known. Make sure to follow/subscribe so you never miss an episode! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	It's very dangerous to bet against AI progress.
0:03.0	I shifted from physics to AI research with my group about eight years ago.
0:07.0	Five, six years ago, almost all my AI colleagues were still predicting that something as good as chat GPT4 was decades away.
0:14.0	Never say never.
0:19.0	Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
0:27.4	Open the pod bay doors, hell.
0:29.2	I want to pivot to that subject now with a quote from your first book, where you say the following.
0:35.2	I suspect that if we can build such ultra-intelligent
0:38.0	machines, then the first one will be severely limited by the software we've written for it,
0:43.0	and we'll have compensated for our lack of understanding about how to optimally program
0:47.5	artificial intelligence by building hardware with significantly more computing power than our brains
0:52.4	have. After all, our neurons are no better
0:55.2	or more numerous than those of dolphins, just differently connected, suggesting that software
0:59.9	can sometimes be more important than hardware. I want to ask you the following question.
1:05.9	You know, certainly what Albert Einstein said was the happiest thought of his life, right?
1:12.9	Which was that an observer in freefall would experience no gravitational field.
1:19.5	He described it as giving him titillations.
1:22.6	I want to ask you, to what extent could we train an artificial intelligent hardware or software, A, what it means
1:30.1	to be happy, and B, what it would feel like to be in free fall? In other words, are we limited
1:38.3	by the lack of ability, or our artificial intelligences, limited by the lack of embodiment and the lack of these, you know,
1:47.6	kind of teleologically driven feelings and emotions that people have? In other words, can AI generate
1:54.5	AE, Albert Einstein? Can it generate new laws of physics? Right now it cannot. I think within 10 years, very likely, yes,
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