Max Fisher of the New York Times on media coverage of China, COVID-19, and Trump

Sinica Podcast

Kaiser Kuo

Culture, China News, Hangzhou, Chinese, International Relations, Chongqing, Beijing, Sichuan, Currentaffairs, China, Politics, Chengdu, Shanghai, Guangzhou, China Economy, News, China Politics, Business, Film, Shenzhen

4.8 • 676 Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2020

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

This week on Sinica, Kaiser chats with Max Fisher, one of The Interpreter columnists for the New York Times, on what U.S. media coverage got right — and wrong — about the outbreak of COVID-19 in China, and the concerning parallels between 2002 and 2020.

8:33: American media coverage of the outbreak

15:14: Dehumanizing the disease in China

22:17: The role of the media in American political discourse

39:11: Moving the American consensus point on China

Recommendations:

Max: The Farewell, by Lulu Wang.

Kaiser: Eternal Life: A Novel, by Dara Horn.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Cynical podcast, a weekly discussion of current affairs in China, produced in partnership with SubChina.
0:14.8	SubChina is simply the best way there is to keep on top of all the important news coming out of China with our indispensable daily newsletter,
0:27.1	our website, and our growing range of podcasts and videos. It's a feast of business, political, and cultural news about a nation that is reshaping the world. I'm Kaiser Guo coming to
0:32.2	today from the home studio in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. Jeremy Goldcorn is attending a
0:37.1	megachurch service in Tennessee with 14,000 other worshipers
0:40.4	and is unable to join.
0:45.8	That sounds fun.
0:47.0	We should do a remote recording from there.
0:48.7	That would be great.
0:49.7	I'm sure they're social distancing.
0:51.6	Today on Zenaika, I'm delighted to be joined by a journalist I have long admired.
0:55.2	Max Fisher.
0:56.4	Max is one of the writers of the interpreter column of the New York Times.
1:00.1	The interpreter is really one of my favorite things to read in the Times.
1:03.8	Max and his fellow columnist Amanda Taub do an outstanding job explaining things that we see happening in the world, adding all that
1:11.8	context that a reported story can't always get in there.
1:15.3	And managing somehow never to sound condescending, which is actually a really hard thing
1:18.7	to do.
1:19.7	Max Fisher, welcome to Cynica.
1:21.1	Thanks, man.
1:22.1	I have been listening to the podcast for almost a decade, so it is really, really fun
1:27.1	for me to finally get to join.
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