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The Good Fight

Max Boot

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2018

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of The Good Fight, Yascha Mounk talks to Max Boot, Jeane J. Kirkpatrick Senior Fellow in National Security Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations and the author of The Corrosion of Conservatism, about his personal journey from leading conservative to principled critic of the Republican Party, the deep roots of Trumpism, and how to forge a new political coalition. Email: thegoodfight@newamerica.org Twitter:@Yascha_Mounk This podcast was made in collaboration with New America.  Podcast production by John T. Williams. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The Economist provides independent journalism for independent thinking and has been

0:05.1

championing progress for almost 200 years.

0:08.3

With the Economist, you gain access to fact-based, deeply researched expert analysis of world events and topics

0:14.3

ranging from business and culture to politics, science and technology.

0:18.2

Tune into the global conversation with reporting from correspondence around the world,

0:23.0

available in-app online through podcasts and print.

0:26.5

So for fact sake, search the economist. Even for those Republicans for whom racism is not Donald Trump's appeal, racism is not a breaking point either.

0:42.0

It's not a disqualifier to support him they think that it's perhaps a minor foybal that's not very important

0:46.8

whereas to me that's a deal breaker

0:50.1

and now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:54.0

Welcome to the podcast that searches for the ideas, policies and strategies that can be to for a time

0:59.0

populist like Donald Trump over the next four years and the next 14.

1:05.8

A lot of the time I know my little introductory spiel can be a little bit pessimistic

1:11.6

or a little bit depressing, pointing to important events in the world like the election of

1:16.4

Bosonaro and Brazil. Well today finally I have something upbeat and optimistic to say.

1:24.1

The midterm elections in the United States were a huge success.

1:28.3

Normally, populist governments do quite well at the polls for the first five or ten years that they are in office. That was not true for

1:35.5

Donald Trump and his Republican Party in the 2018 midterms. They were soundly defeated in a referendum on Donald Trump.

1:46.0

And there are seven really positive lessons that we can take from that and I want to run through them very quickly right now.

1:54.7

The first is simply to update our causal model of what is happening in the world.

2:00.6

For the last two years we've seen polls showing Donald Trump to be very unpopular, but we couldn't quite trust them because in 2016 they had seemingly misled us.

2:09.0

Well, the midterms, millions of votes counted across the nation show us the polls

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