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Hi, this is Gilbert Gopferi, and this is Gilbert Gopferi's amazing colossal podcast with my co-host,

Frank Santopadre.

We're thrilled to have not won but two fascinating guests this week.

Max Allen Collins is a New York Times best-selling author, screenwriter, musician and filmmaker who has written dozens of novels, comic books, comic scripts, short stories, movie novelizations, and historical fiction.

His graphic novel, Road to Tradition, is the basis of the Oscar-winning film starring Tom Hanks and Paul Newman.

And his comic credits include the syndicated script, Dick Tracy, Batman, and his own mystery,

and CSI crime scene investigation based on the hit series.

He's been called the Novelization King by Entertainment Weekly with tie-in books appearing nine times on the USA Today bestseller list.

And twice on the New York Times list, he's also written and directed five features and documentaries including the lifetime movie, Mommy, and the HBO world premiered the expert.

And his one-man show, Elliott Ness, an untouchable life, was nominated for an Edgar by mystery writers of America, a lifelong fan of Mickey's Ballaine.

He would go on to collaborate with the fame writer on a comic book called Mike Danger.

And upon his death, he was entrusted to finish, uncompleted works by Spalaine, including the Big Bang and Murder My Love.

And also, this man claims he loved my work on Saturday Night Live in the 80s.

So, I can already tell you this guy has a squirrels.

And a returning guest, Dave Thomas, is a popular and prolific actor, writer, comedian, producer, and director, and one of the most inventive comedy minds of his generation.

You've seen him in films like Stripes, Red Race, Conehack, Scrains Brew, which he even co-wrote and directed.

You also know his work from hit TV shows like The Simpsons, King of the Hill, Weeds, Rested Development, Grace Undefire, and his own series, The Dave Thomas Comedy Show.

And as a writer, he's scripted episodes of a clean drama programs like Bones, and The Blacklist, and Co-Rote.

The movie Spies Like Us for five seasons.

He was one of the writers and stars of the beloved sketch comedy show,

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