The real reason why people buy into the story, even if it is utterly absurd, is not because they believe in the narrative.

It is because the narrative leads to the new social bond.

That's the real reason.

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Welcome everyone to this show. I am your host, Dr. Chris Martinson.

And today's show is going to be one of the

most important you'll watch this year. I've spent pretty much the past two years covering the science

of COVID. Well, today we're going to cover the psychology of COVID, more specifically, the ways in which

many societies and cultures around the world, principally

countries holding Western values I've noticed, have overreacted, have underreacted, and have

sometimes even dangerously fallen into what might be called mass psychosis or more accurately,

mass formation. During such moments, mental health declines, societies can do great harm to themselves

and to others as they irrationally overreact to perceived and sometimes entirely imaginary threats.

Today's guest is Professor Matthias Desmond of Ghent University, who is one of the leading

expert voices on this specific topic.

In addition to being a lecturing professor in clinical psychology at Ghent University,

he holds a master's degree in statistics.

Professor Desmond, I know you're a busy man these days.

Thank you so much for taking the time to be with us and welcome to the show.

You're welcome. It's a pleasure to be

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