This is probably not the Ben Shapiro show audience, but, you know, my progressive friends will want me to acknowledge that some bad things happened across the settling of the West and all that kind of stuff.

But, you know, it was done for a reason.

And I'm basically arguing for a continuation of that kind of vision that, you know, the United States is great and should want to be great and powerful, and that that means

having more people.

Amidst the growing outrage mobs and the increasing frequency of individuals being canceled,

we feed in the internet trolls and we reward them.

I'm not going to do it, man.

Harper's Magazine published a letter on justice and open debate in July of this year.

Signed by thought leaders, cultural figures, and writers, the letter criticizes the strict

orthodoxy of the left, stating, quote, the free exchange of information and ideas, the

lifeblood of a liberal society is daily becoming more constricted, and adding, quote,

we need to preserve the possibility of good faith disagreement without dire professional

consequences. Many outspoken progressive signed on to the letter, including J.K. Rowling, Stephen Pinker, Noam Chomsky, Gloria Steinem, and won Matthew Iglesias. Iglesias, one of the co-founders of Vox and host of Vox's podcast, The Weeds, ended up being called out by his own company on cue for his participation. Critic at large for Vox, Emily Vanderwerf, accused Matt of supporting anti-trans dog whistles because the letter closely followed outrage about J.K. Rowling stance that trans women are not the same as biological women. Fellow Vox co-founder as Recline added on Twitter, quote, A lot of debates that sell themselves as being about free speech are actually about power. And there's a lot of power in being able to claim and hold the mantle of free speech

defender. Matt and other signatories to the Harper's letter speak to how far the retribution

has spread. Today, we'll get into where Matt finds himself in that controversy and where we go

from here in this age of intolerance. Plus, to get into Matt's 2020 election thoughts and his new book,

One Billion Americans, in which Matt makes the argument that the U.S. population needs

to get a whole lot bigger if we're going to be the winners of the future.

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Welcome to the Ben Shapiro Show Sunday special. Today, we feature a very special guest, Matthew Iglesias.

Just a reminder, we'll be doing some bonus questions

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