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What does it look like to go for a walk in the garden and to be mindful of the moment-by-moment breath-by-breadth conversation that God offers to me?

Like, I feel like I'm settling too often

for the occasional check-in

when, like, he's longing to draw near to me

and wants me to draw near to him every second of every day.

Award-winning recording artist, songwriter, author. Those are just a few of the hats worn by our next guest, Matthew West. We were together virtually last time. That's right. And it's so great to have you here in person. Man, it's awesome to be with you again. Prayer has been a big focus for you in this last year, this last project.

Why prayer?

Well, I think I've discovered, I've made music long enough to know that a lot of times the

songs I'm writing, they're not just for the people I'm singing to.

Sometimes the songs are for the singer too.

And so this topic of prayer is something that, you know, as a follower of Christ, a lot of times I'll beat myself up and go, I should be further along in this discipline of prayer. And to be specific with you, I had a moment before a concert in Greenville, South Carolina. And I'll do this like meet and greet where people will come and visit me before the show. We'll take a picture, maybe share their story a little bit.

And a husband and wife came up to me. And I thought, so let's take a picture. And they said, well, actually, we were wondering if you could pray for us. I said, I'd be happy to pray for you. What's going on? And she said, well, we're at your concert tonight. but tomorrow morning we'll be at the hospital one mile down the road the wife was battling breast

cancer and going in for surgery and I could see the fear in her eyes. Now, I know a lot of people might be guilty of the same thing that I am, which is say, you know what, I'll be praying for you. Yeah. Yeah. And then you move on and life gets going. And do you actually really pray for that person? But in that moment, I felt a check in my spirit to say, let's stop the line right now and let's huddle together. And we prayed in that

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