Hey everybody Kevin Rose here.

Kevin Rose here.

Thanks for tuning in to another episode of the Kevin Rose show.

You're going to like this episode.

If you're like me and a little bit of a health biohacker, longevity freak, or at least

have interest in that area, there is a lot to learn about sleep.

I first started getting into sleep here a couple years ago.

I'd say it's probably been more than a couple years.

Ever since Fitbit announced they were tracking sleep or they created a portion of their app for that.

I remember it was just kind of fascinated with it.

But then the Ore Ring came out and the Ore Ring is one that I've talked about in the show before,

and it started showing me kind of

really in-depth data about my heart rate resting heart rate, heart rate variability

in the different stages of sleep and I noticed I was getting pretty low deep sleep and I noticed I was getting pretty low deep sleep.

And so I reached out to my doctor, Dr. Peter Attia,

started talking to him about it and he suggested using things like cold, like a chilly pad, to kind of cool you down at night to

sleep better and once you start going down a rabbit hole I went pretty deep and

and started researching and reading up on the various studies that are out there, and there is a lot of data,

especially in the last 10 to 20 years.

And all kind of directions and all the folks that I was talking to both in terms of physicians and scientists, they all pointed back to Matt Walker, who's a professor

at Berkeley. He's a professor of neuroscience and psychology at Berkeley and also the founder and director of the Center for Human

Sleep Science and he came in with a book that I dug into after it was

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