From the campus of Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan, this is the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, bringing the activity and education of the college to listeners across the country.

Here's your host, Scott Bertram.

Hello again, again everybody and welcome

into another edition of the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour. On this episode, we talked with Matt

Spalding, Dean of the Steve and Amy Van Andal School of Government in Washington, D.C. Dan McCarthy,

the editor of Modern Age on a new conservative agenda. Kevin Portus on this Constitution Week from Hillsdale's Politics Department will discuss

the separation of powers in that document.

And Courtney Mayett from Hillsdale's chemistry department will tell us what it takes to train

and take part in an Ironman competition.

Join now by Dr. Matthew Spalding.

He's the dean of the Steve and Amy Van Andal Graduate School of Government in Washington, D.C.

That's what we're talking about today, too.

Dr. Spalding, thanks for joining us.

Good to be with you, Scott.

And this is big news for us at Hillsdale College.

It is. This is us at Hillsdale College. It is.

This is a new venture, which is just launching.

We've got some students, but it's now public and all set up and going to have a graduate

school in Washington, D.C. teaching Hillsdale's ideas here to people in the nation's

capital. So this is a big deal.

So how did this whole process begin? How long has this Van Andel Graduate School of

Government in D.C. been in the works?

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