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Hello, this is Hugo Rifkin, and now we're going to be unpacking the big political stories of the day with two clever people from The Times and the Sunday Times.

And one of them is Matthew Paris, a columnist. Hello, Matthew.

Hello, good morning.

Good to have you with me. And the other is Manvina. She's running late, although I'm informed that she does have a cake.

So I think we'll forgive her for running late,

depending on how late she runs and depending, I think, on the cake.

Yes, we'll be the judge of that.

We'll be the judge. What are you hoping for, Matt?

I like something moist and sticky.

Yeah.

She's always complaining about her soggy bottoms, mandarin, but I quite like the soggy bottom.

Yeah. Yeah, well, look, it'd better be a good cake because we've trailed it extensively. That's Mandarine Rana, excellent baker and host of the story, of course, who is literally not

sitting opposite me in a chair, but I'm told we'll be doing so shortly.

So, Matt, at first, I'm stuck with you.

Donald Trump has given his first sit-down interview of his second term with Sean Hannity on Fox,

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