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Meditation inspired by the ancient Stoics a short

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we talk to some of our fellow students of ancient philosophy well known and obscure

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Hey, it's Ryan Holiday. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoic Podcast. I was driving the other day. My phone was plugged in to the car and

this text comes up on the screen in the center console the Apple CarPlayer, whatever and it's like you have a text from Matthew McConaughey and was like, is this real life?

This person maybe one of the greatest actors in the world person whose work I very much enjoy is just shoot me a text and as it happens he was and he had a question about this course he was launching, which is actually really cool. It's called road trip the highway to more and he'd never done anything like that. I think it's actually been cool. I saw an interview actually I think Richard Lincolay later was talking about one of the reasons he thinks Matthew wrote his book and then

I would add to this why he's doing stuff like this course is that so much of an actor's life is outside of their control actually when I interviewed Matthew on the Daily Stoic Podcast back in 2020. We're talking about this line from Epictetus. Repetetus is where actors in a play like so much of what we do is not on control. We don't control the material. We don't control what the audience does. We don't control what the director does. We don't control which part we get we're just reacting and then an actor has to act well.

It's actually the role well but it's also wonderfully fulfilling when you do get to be more creatively in control and you get to make your own stuff.

That's what I like about writing books is like it's my book it's published more or less how I want it to be published. There's less intermediaries than there are and Hollywood or television or radio or whatever.

So get the text from Matthew talk about this course and then I asked him if you wanted to come on the podcast and have like a real in depth convo about this idea of more but also how less can get you more which is what I've been thinking about sort of my mantra for the year as I've been talking about.

You've seen Matthew and everything from interstellar the gentleman's Dallas buyers club the wolf wall street he not only has one best actor but I think even more impressively in the weeks and months after the terrible tragedy at you've all the where Matthew's actually from.

He helped bring both parties together to pass while not nearly sufficient one of the first bits of progress we have had in this country about dealing with this terrible scourge of gun violence and I was just I detected him while that was all happening just how amazingly impressed I was by all of it.

Matthew also has this just keep living foundation which is dedicated to help and teenage kids leave lead active lives and make healthy choices to become great men and women so we got a bunch in common a bunch to talk about and in today's episode we talked for nearly two hours I'm going to split this up into a part one and a part two you can follow him on at officially macana hay on Instagram at macana hay on Twitter at Matthew macana hay on YouTube and then you can check out this really cool course that he did.

I went through all of it there's a bunch of themes in there that really struck closely with me and we we dig deep into them in our conversation you're going to art of live in event dot com slash road trip I'll link to that in today's show notes but I'm pretty sure if you just search Matthew macana hay road trip.

It just it comes up it's like the first Google results you can grab that and then check out his book green lights which is also extremely good and I quite enjoy them my blurbs there on the back so I'm excited to bring you one and only Matthew macana.

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