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this is a show for

this is a show for you if you're bored with people arguing on the

show for you if you're bored with people arguing on the internet over subjects

they know nothing about. At trigonometry we don't pretend to be the experts

we ask the experts. Our brilliant guest this week is a returning guest to Trigonometry in the wake of the election.

We're delighted to have him back.

He's a professor at the University of Kent and the author of National Populism

are a vault against liberal democracy.

Matt Goodwin, welcome back to Trigonometry.

Thanks for having me again.

Yeah, it's good to have you back.

There was a long intro, I hope I got all over right, I'm pretty sure I have.

We're delighted to have you back. It's been a week since the election as we're recording this. What went wrong or what went right?

Well, has it been a week already?

Yes.

Okay, I'm still sort of in the whirlwind of post-election chaos.

Well, look, I mean, this was a realignment election in many ways. This was the largest conservative

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