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Conversations with Tyler

Matthew Ball on the Metaverse and Gaming

Conversations with Tyler

Conversations with Tyler

Society & Culture, Education

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2022

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Fighting fires meant a lot of downtime for Matthew Ball. Stationed at a forward operating base in the woods for two weeks at a time, he spent long hours amongst fellow firefighters with whom he shared little in common except for their love of the outdoors. The skills he gained working towards mutual goals with those he had little else in common with has translated well to his career as a strategist and venture capitalist in the digital media and gaming industries. Ball is a managing partner of EpyllionCo, venture partner at Makers Fund, and author of the anticipated The Metaverse: And How it Will Revolutionize Everything.

Ball joined Tyler to discuss the eventual widespan transition of the population to the metaverse, the exciting implications of this interconnected network of 3D worlds for education, how the metaverse will improve dating and its impacts on sex, the happiness and career satisfaction of professional gamers, his predictions for Tyler’s most frequent uses of the metaverse, his favorite type of entrepreneur, why he has thousands of tabs open on his computer at any given moment, and more.

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Recorded July 6th, 2022

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0:00.0

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0:09.1

bridging the gap between academic ideas and real-world problems.

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0:27.2

Hello everyone and welcome back to Conversations with Tyler.

0:30.7

Today I am extremely honored to be chatting with Matthew Ball.

0:34.4

Matthew is the leading thinker on the Metaverse and gaming.

0:37.9

One of the leading thinkers on media.

0:40.4

He started as a firefighter, I believe.

0:43.3

He's the CEO of Epilion, a Metaverse-focused holding company,

0:47.3

and his most impressive achievement, above all, is that he somehow managed to convince

0:51.8

the economist, the magazine, to let him review Star Wars movies for them.

0:56.2

Matt, welcome.

0:57.2

Thank you for the introduction.

0:59.2

Nice to be here.

1:00.2

A very simple question.

1:02.0

I was born into a 3D world and then starting about the early 1990s, I spent a lot of my time

1:08.1

trying to get into a 2D world because it was better for me to work with online, right?

1:13.2

So I is reintroducing a third dimension, so crucial to building out tech.

1:19.2

So I think there are a few different ways to unpack that.

1:22.0

First and foremost, I need to emphasize that there's a misconception that the Metaverse

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means that everything we do will shift to 3D.

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