My name is Matt Whitman. This is the 10 minute Bible hour podcast and when I was playing guns with my friends in fourth grade

some girls from the neighborhood came over and were like we want to play guns too and

we were like that is not how things work we did not associate with girls you're

gonna have to go somewhere else and then one of them was like, I totally can play guns and she reached and tried to take a gun out of my hand.

It wasn't an actual gun.

We didn't use actual guns that shoot real bullets.

They were fake guns just to clarify that. So people didn't think that I used actual guns with real bullets, they were fake guns just to clarify that.

So people didn't think that I used actual guns with real bullets and that a girl

unsafely and without trigger discipline tried to grab it out of my hand.

It was a fake gun.

But she did that and then we touched hands and I'll tell you how that made me feel

inside emotionally. Dead. It made me feel horrible because I got touched by a girl and now I

knew I was going to get made fun of by all my friends and that's exactly what happened because you don't want to be touched by a girl when you're in fourth grade.

But fast forward to eighth grade, when that girl came over and saw me sitting alone at the eighth grade roller skating party at Wernocco West in Greeley, Colorado,

and she was like, hey, we should roller skate together.

And I was like, okay.

And then we went out there and she's like, you're supposed to hold hands when you're

roller skate.

I was like, okay.

And that did make me feel things. That was really electric and to this day I

continued to really like it when I hold hands with my now wife who was not the eighth

grade girl that she came along later. But the point is, if you rewind back to the kid version of me there was something that was the

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