Welcome to Nobody Told Me.

I'm Laura Owens.

And I'm Jan Black.

On this episode, we welcome adventure entrepreneur and author Matthew Walker to the program. Matt is a behavioral

scientist and adventure expedition leader who works with people to take the lessons learned from

adventuring and apply them to the everyday challenges we all face. Matt is the author of Adventure in

Everything, how the five elements of adventure create a life of authenticity, purpose, and

inspiration. Matt, thanks so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. Looking forward to our conversation.

Yeah, we are too. You believe adventure can teach us how to live each day and each relationship

with intention and focus and humor. Tell us more about what's led you to become a catalyst for

adventure. So I started climbing mountains and adventuring about when I was 16, 17, and I grew up in the

mecca of all North American alpine mountain climbing of northern New Jersey. And what I found was that I quickly needed to have more of it.

I got really, really into it and kind of caught the bug for adventuring

and made my way out to the Pacific Northwest for University and stayed out here.

And in that process, what I realized was that the connections that I had with other climbers

and my partners was something that I hadn't

experienced in any other part of my life. And through those partnerships and friendships, I kind of

just opened the doors to really a deeper level of the human experience in challenge and in nature.

What I found was in the climbing community and guiding

mountains and in my own partners in the climate community was that we kept going back for more,

but we weren't very skilled at taking the lessons, learned from those experiences, and applying

them to our professional lives or applying them to our personal lives. And so I made it my

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