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Honestly with Bari Weiss

Matt Taibbi v. Bret Stephens on American Power

Honestly with Bari Weiss

The Free Press

News, Society & Culture

4.67.8K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2022

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Ever since the end of World War II, America has been the dominant world superpower. We have been ready to use that power to defend our national interest. Or to defend a certain set of values. Or both. But there has always been a tension in this country between isolationism and interventionism. Between those among us who think we should maintain an active role in world affairs—and those who want to pull back and focus on our myriad problems here at home. That long standing debate is being reignited right now on the Russian-Ukrainian border. So for today, a debate between Bret Stephens and Matt Taibbi on American Power. When should we use our might? And has recent history proven that we do more harm than good? Bret Stephens is author of America in Retreat. Matt Taibbi is the author, most recently, of Hate Inc. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is honestly, and today, a debate about American foreign policy

0:38.8

The day of days for America and her lies

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Ever since the end of World War II,

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the United States has been the dominant world superpower.

0:47.0

Reporters rush out to relay the news to an anxious world

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and touch off celebrations throughout the country.

0:53.0

Joy is unconfined.

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And America and Americans have understood itself to some extent as ready to use that power to

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defend certain values or to defend our national interest or sometimes a bit of

1:10.5

both. On Sunday June 25 25th, Communist forces attacked the Republic of Korea.

1:16.3

This attack has made it clear beyond all doubt that the international communist movement

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is willing to use armed invasion to conquer

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independent nation. But there's always been a tension in this country between

1:28.9

isolationism and interventionism. A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs

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