You earlier explained confidence in your vice president.

Yes. If your team came back and showed you data that she would fare better against former

President Donald Trump, would you reconsider your decision to stay in the race?

No, unless they came back and said,

there's no way you can win.

Me.

No one's saying that.

No pulse is that. No pulse says that.

It is so weird.

I wish someone would tell him to stop that.

It doesn't do anything except flip people out and creep people out.

But now you know the signal.

David Axelrod came out and tweeted right after that. I don't know what he would would he use his social media as a tool

But after he heard that he had a very good he had a very good statement he said if what he said at the end of his press

conference is true it sounds like Biden's team has not been very candid with

him about what data is actually data is showing the age issue is a use and

potentially insurmountable concern and his odds of victory are very very slim.

Matt Taibi joins us now Matt Taibi has cut his own wake on a sub stack. He's got a new article out talking

about maybe another match between Hillary and Trump 2. Matt, welcome back.

Thanks for having me, Brian.

So first, all.

That's a crazy audio.

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