Matt Stoller on the rise of autocracy & Krugman, Leslie Lee on Sanders excellent identity politics

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4.6 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2016

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Make sure you join our Patreon to get the extra interview chunk with Matt Stoller. On this episode of the Katie Halper Show, we dissect the way the media smeared Bernie Sanders and his position on identity politics, which, it turns out, is much more nuanced than the position of his peers. Lee argues that the media disingenuously and intentionally distorts what Sanders says for political and ideological reasons and that people who are honest mistakenly pick up this manufactured narrative. We then talk to Matt Stoller about how and why Trump was elected and how our response to him will shape the agenda. He also warns us against taking economists seriously and shares his thoughts on Paul Krugman and populism vs progressivism. And he kills some narratives with his own bare hands. He's also a surprisingly good motivational speaker.

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0:00.0	So we're doing Matt he rushed home from work to do it.
0:03.3	Um, okay. Okay. Hey, are we doing this on Skype? Yeah, I text, no, we're going to do it on the phone because we had to...
0:15.0	That voice that you just heard belongs to Matt Stoller.
0:22.0	Matt Stoller is a policymaker focusing on industrial organization,
0:26.0	monopoly power, and market structure.
0:28.0	Sounds really boring, but he's actually really interesting.
0:30.0	He writes for places like the New York Times, the nation, the Atlantic.
0:33.2	He talks to us about the rise of Trump and which narratives need to be killed, and he's willing to kill them with his own bare hands.
0:39.9	But before we speak to Matt, we talk identity politics with Leslie Lee.
0:43.4	And our hot take of the week is that Bernie Sanders is the wokest, most intersectional politician
0:49.9	alive. Make sure you go on to Patreonreon.com slash the Katie helper show.
0:55.0	Again, that's patreon.com slash the katy helper show.
0:57.0	You're going to get bonus content including an extended interview with none other than Matt Stoller.
1:01.0	More things to look forward to work, great videos,
1:03.8	extended interviews with Leslie Lee,
1:06.5	follow-up interview with Benjealous.
1:08.8	And a very happy belated birthday shout out
1:12.4	to Darius Engel, the loyal supporter of the Katie Halper Show
1:16.4	a men truly exquisite exceptional taste.
1:19.4	Happy birthday.
1:21.4	He turned in age I won't mention on November 25th.
1:25.0	If you'd like your own personalized birthday shout out and this time we
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