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Card has no cash access and expires in six months. You're listening to the Michael Scherber Show My guests today are Stephen Paker, Matt Ridley, who need no introduction, but of course I'm going to give them one.

Stephen Paker is the John Stone Professor of Psychology

at Harvard University, a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist

and the winner of many awards for his research, teaching in books.

He's been elected to the National Academy of Sciences

and named one of Ty magazines 100 most influential people

and one of foreign policies 100 leading global thinkers.

His books include the language instinct, how the mind works,

the blank slate, the stuff of thought,

the better angels of our nature,

Enlightenment now in his new book is rationality.

These books, by the way, are all available on audio,

and the reader's quite good.

I've listened to them.

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