Huh. Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran moving from the

local theater downtown to the 200-cat venue with grace and dignity or else

a scrappy upstart.

Moving from the open mic to headlining the 200 cap venue

and acting like a total tool about it,

this is your show.

Because ultimately, it is what every writer seeks most an iron-clad excuse to put off actually

writing. Hey everybody it's the first Friday of March 2024 and I thank you for joining us this week's show is brought to you by

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