Hey guys, welcome back to the Clutterbug podcast. I'm fangirling a little bit. This is an epic moment

in Clutterbug podcast history because two days guest is I'm going to say the leading

downsizing and decluttering expert in the world. He's also the host of two-time Emmy nominated

series Legacy with Matt Paxson on PBS. And of course, he was featured on the hit television show

Horders for 15 seasons. He is the author of bestselling book Keep the Memories,

Lose the Stuff, Welcome Matt Paxson. Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.

This is really exciting for me because I've been a fan for so long. And I, I mean obviously

everyone's a fan of Horders, but you have a really unique take. But before we get into that,

I have so many other questions for you. One thing I see you live in Georgia with your wife

and seven children Matt. Yes, the guy from Horders is Hording Kids. That's always the joke. We have

seven kids. We're a blended family. So I had three. She had four, but we have them all four

times. We have a mouthful time. And she's a minimalist. And so now we all are. And so we live in a

24 hundred square foot house, which blows people away. That's, whoa, that's crazy pants. Yeah,

Mike, it's a snow day today. I have all three of my kids home. And I'm not handling it well.

Yeah. So digital days are the worst. I'll say that because all the kids just forget everything

they want room. And you know, we use our computer. Yeah, it's, it's a lot. I mean, I'll say this,

we minimalism actually helped us on the parenting side because it eliminates all the junk, right?

Like all the happy meal toys and all the, the just stuff you don't need. That being said, it also

isolates your parenting. Like you have, you find out like how much you rely on technology and

stuff movies and video games, things like that to parent. And when we eliminated that,

we didn't really have like an extra six hours a day to parent. And so it took us a while to like

learn how to parent as minimalist and what we've learned as boredom is good from the parenting's

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