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part of this weekend startups where we talk to angel investors early stage

investors about how they make their decisions what companies they've

invested in what lessons they've learned so you can well if you're a founder

you can learn how to hack the system and get their money and if you're an

investor hey maybe you can get some of their best practices and become better

at investing in companies or if you're just a fan of tech you can learn how we

make the sausage here in Silicon Valley and the tech industry I'm really excited

to have a very old friend of mine Matt Mullin-Wegg who I knew when he was

but a we-pup 17 or 18 years old 2003 he was a little developer I don't know

where what city you were in were you in Canada or something or Houston

Houston Houston Houston Houston we did meet at South by Southwest and he came

up and pitched me hey I want you to use our software to you know for web

blogs ink and engage and I was like listen kid that's great but I have Brian

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