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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy

Matt Huang - Investing At The Frontier - [Invest Like the Best, EP.420]

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy

Colossus

Investing, Business, Technology

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2025

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

My guest today is Matt Huang, co-founder of Paradigm, a leading crypto investment firm with over $12 billion in assets under management. Before launching Paradigm in 2018 with Coinbase co-founder Fred Ehrsam, Matt was a partner at Sequoia Capital, where he led many of the firm's crypto investments. It’s widely reported that Michael Moritz called Matt “the only regrettable loss in Sequoia’s history.” In our conversation, Matt shares his framework for navigating the often illegible frontier of crypto, how his early investment in ByteDance (now worth 10,000x his initial capital) shaped his approach to identifying exceptional founders, and why he believes so deeply in crypto’s long-term potential. His firm, Paradigm, not only invests in many of the leading companies in the industry, it also builds open-source tools used by most of crypto. Matt has a rare blend of IQ and EQ that allows him to understand technical complexity, bring together unique talents, and ride out crypto’s notorious volatility. Whether you're crypto-curious or crypto-skeptical, I think you'll find his perspective valuable. Please enjoy my great conversation with Matt Huang. Matt Huang's Profile in Colossus Review. For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Ramp. Ramp’s mission is to help companies manage their spend in a way that reduces expenses and frees up time for teams to work on more valuable projects. Go to Ramp.com/invest to sign up for free and get a $250 welcome bonus. – This episode is brought to you by Ridgeline. Ridgeline has built a complete, real-time, modern operating system for investment managers. It handles trading, portfolio management, compliance, customer reporting, and much more through an all-in-one real-time cloud platform. Head to ridgelineapps.com to learn more about the platform. –  This episode is brought to you by AlphaSense. AlphaSense has completely transformed the research process with cutting-edge AI technology and a vast collection of top-tier, reliable business content. Invest Like the Best listeners can get a free trial now at Alpha-Sense.com/Invest and experience firsthand how AlphaSense and Tegus help you make smarter decisions faster. ----- Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best (00:06:15) Matt Huang's College Years and Early Career (00:12:27) The Failed Startup and Lessons Learned (00:16:51) Matt's Pivotal Trip to China and ByteDance Investment (00:25:58) Sequoia's Culture of High Standards (00:32:51) Discovering Bitcoin and Crypto (00:39:33) Founding Paradigm (00:45:40) Building a Unique Investment Team (00:48:03) Challenges and Volatility in Crypto (00:53:10) The Relationship Between Legibility and Investing (00:58:40) Crypto as a New Financial System (01:05:19) The Importance of Stablecoins (01:09:54) AI and Crypto: The Next Frontier (01:16:19) Personal Motivations and Important Crypto Use Cases (01:29:23) The State of Regulation in Crypto (01:32:27) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done for Matt

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0:00.0

Something I speak about frequently on Invest Like the Best is the idea of life's work.

0:04.5

A more fun way to think about it is that I'm looking for maniacs on a mission.

0:08.5

This is the basis for our investment firm, Positive Sum, and it's the reason why I'm so enthusiastic about our presenting sponsor, Ramp.

0:15.0

Not only are the founders, Karim and Eric, life's work-level founders, certainly maniacs on a mission.

0:20.0

They have created a product that is effectively an unlock for founders and finance team to do more of their life's work

0:25.5

by streamlining financial operations, saving everyone their most precious resource time.

0:30.9

Ramp has built a command and control system for corporate cards and expense management.

0:35.1

You can issue cards, manage approvals, make vendor payments of all kinds, and even automate

0:39.4

closing your books all in one place.

0:41.7

Speaking from my own experience using Ramp for my business, the product is wildly intuitive,

0:46.4

simplistic, and makes life so much easier that you'll feel bad for any company who hasn't

0:50.4

yet made the switch.

0:52.5

The Ramp team is relentless, and the product continues to evolve to save you time

0:56.0

that you would never have dreamed of getting back.

0:58.2

To me, there is nothing more interesting

1:00.0

than technologies that reduce friction for other entrepreneurs

1:03.7

to be able to build the thing that they want to.

1:06.2

So much attention has gone to cloud computing,

1:08.8

APIs, and other ways of making life easy for founders,

1:12.5

what RAMP has done and is doing is build yet another set of tools in this category.

1:18.0

To get started, go to ramp.com. Cards issued by Celtic Bank and Sutton Bank, member FDIC,

1:23.9

terms and conditions apply.

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